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  TOLD ya' sooo. MS backdoor and the police.
« on: April 29, 2008, 11:22:12 AM » by ECA
http://techdirt.com/articles/20080429/095514977.shtml

Microsoft Gives Vista Backdoor Keys To The Police
from the meaning-the-crooks-have-it-too dept

It's long been assumed that Microsoft has built in various "backdoors" for law enforcement to get around its own security, but now reader Kevin Stapp writes in to let us know that the company has also been literally handing out the keys to law enforcement. Apparently, they're giving out special USB keys that simply get around Microsoft's security, allowing the holder of the key to very quickly get forensic information (including internet surfing history), passwords and supposedly encrypted data off of a laptop. While you can understand why police like this, the very fact that the backdoor is there and that a bunch of these USB keys are out there pretty much guarantees that those with nefarious intent also have such keys. The second you build in such backdoors, no matter how noble the reason, you can rest assured that they will be used by criminals as well. No matter what, for those of you who didn't already know it, now you have more evidence as to why trusting Microsoft's "security" isn't such a good idea.
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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/microsoft/2004379751_msftlaw29.html


Microsoft device helps police pluck evidence from cyberscene of crime

By Benjamin J. Romano

Seattle Times technology reporter

Microsoft has developed a small plug-in device that investigators can use to quickly extract forensic data from computers that may have been used in crimes.

The COFEE, which stands for Computer Online Forensic Evidence Extractor, is a USB "thumb drive" that was quietly distributed to a handful of law-enforcement agencies last June. Microsoft General Counsel Brad Smith described its use to the 350 law-enforcement experts attending a company conference Monday.

The device contains 150 commands that can dramatically cut the time it takes to gather digital evidence, which is becoming more important in real-world crime, as well as cybercrime. It can decrypt passwords and analyze a computer's Internet activity, as well as data stored in the computer.

It also eliminates the need to seize a computer itself, which typically involves disconnecting from a network, turning off the power and potentially losing data. Instead, the investigator can scan for evidence on site.

More than 2,000 officers in 15 countries, including Poland, the Philippines, Germany, New Zealand and the United States, are using the device, which Microsoft provides free.

"These are things that we invest substantial resources in, but not from the perspective of selling to make money," Smith said in an interview. "We're doing this to help ensure that the Internet stays safe."

Law-enforcement officials from agencies in 35 countries are in Redmond this week to talk about how technology can help fight crime. Microsoft held a similar event in 2006. Discussions there led to the creation of COFEE.

Smith compared the Internet of today to London and other Industrial Revolution cities in the early 1800s. As people flocked from small communities where everyone knew each other, an anonymity emerged in the cities and a rise in crime followed.

The social aspects of Web 2.0 are like "new digital cities," Smith said. Publishers, interested in creating huge audiences to sell advertising, let people participate anonymously.

That's allowing "criminals to infiltrate the community, become part of the conversation and persuade people to part with personal information," Smith said.

Children are particularly at risk to anonymous predators or those with false identities. "Criminals seek to win a child's confidence in cyberspace and meet in real space," Smith cautioned.

Expertise and technology like COFEE are needed to investigate cybercrime, and, increasingly, real-world crimes.

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"So many of our crimes today, just as our lives, involve the Internet and other digital evidence," said Lisa Johnson, who heads the Special Assault Unit in the King County Prosecuting Attorney's Office.

A suspect's online activities can corroborate a crime or dispel an alibi, she said.

The 35 individual law-enforcement agencies in King County, for example, don't have the resources to investigate the explosion of digital evidence they seize, said Johnson, who attended the conference.

"They might even choose not to seize it because they don't know what to do with it," she said. "... We've kind of equated it to asking specific law-enforcement agencies to do their own DNA analysis. You can't possibly do that."

Johnson said the prosecutor's office, the Washington Attorney General's Office and Microsoft are working on a proposal to the Legislature to fund computer forensic crime labs.

Microsoft also got credit for other public-private partnerships around law enforcement.

Jean-Michel Louboutin, Interpol's executive director of police services, said only 10 of 50 African countries have dedicated cybercrime investigative units.

"The digital divide is no exaggeration," he told the conference. "Even in countries with dedicated cybercrime units, expertise is often too scarce."

He credited Microsoft for helping Interpol develop training materials and international databases used to prevent child abuse.

Smith acknowledged Microsoft's efforts are not purely altruistic. It benefits from selling collaboration software and other technology to law-enforcement agencies, just like everybody else, he said.
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  Re: TOLD ya' sooo. MS backdoor and the police.
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2008, 05:22:37 PM » by KD Martin
This is precisely why it's important to use open-source security software that has been vetted to have no 'back doors' and full AES-128 or AES-256 encryption.  Iron Key is great for encrypting single files, and True Crypt is good for encrypting an entire 'drive'.  Both are free.

Don't leave home without them.  Especially with USB flash drives.  I always encrypt the whole drive with a 63 byte key.  Not even the NSA has enough compute power to break these encryption systems and yet they inject almost no overhead for use.

There are several solutions out there for encrypting entire USB flash drives.  Google is your friend.

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  Re: TOLD ya' sooo. MS backdoor and the police.
« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2008, 06:00:50 PM » by ECA
the problem i see, is WHY in hell a OS, needs all the protection MS puts into it...
ALONg with the CRAP, its a HOG...for no reason..
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  Re: TOLD ya' sooo. MS backdoor and the police.
« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2008, 06:21:01 PM » by KD Martin
I think it might have something to do with the RIAA and MPAA DRM baloney.  All those great Vista features promised, and almost none delivered.  Where's my new file system?  The registry still stinks.  Vista still looks like new fluff in an old package.  And now we know just how 'secure' it is.

On a brighter note, XP SP3 was released today.  I'm stickin' with XP for a while longer.

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  Re: TOLD ya' sooo. MS backdoor and the police.
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2008, 06:59:04 PM » by RDH
On a brighter note, XP SP3 was released today.  I'm stickin' with XP for a while longer.

Oops - "Microsoft on Tuesday said it is delaying the release of Windows XP Service Pack 3 because of a newly uncovered glitch."

c|net NEWS.com


« Last Edit: April 29, 2008, 07:06:09 PM by RDH »
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  Re: TOLD ya' sooo. MS backdoor and the police.
« Reply #5 on: April 29, 2008, 07:28:28 PM » by KD Martin
Well what a surprise that is.  I thought the server was messed due to demand.  So much for that.  Thanks for the update.

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  Re: TOLD ya' sooo. MS backdoor and the police.
« Reply #6 on: April 29, 2008, 08:05:36 PM » by RDH

I've been running XP SP3 RC2 on one of my boxes for the past few months. No apparent changes/updates, and no problems.

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  Re: TOLD ya' sooo. MS backdoor and the police.
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2008, 08:11:23 PM » by hhopper

Does XP run any faster with SP3 or is that just another dirty rumor?

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  Re: TOLD ya' sooo. MS backdoor and the police.
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2008, 08:35:24 PM » by RDH

Does XP run any faster with SP3 or is that just another dirty rumor?


Not that I could tell and I didn't run any before-after benchmarks. More than anything, I think SP3 is just a roll-up of the hundreds of patches since SP2.

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  Re: TOLD ya' sooo. MS backdoor and the police.
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2008, 09:50:38 PM » by ECA
OK,

WHO WANTS VISTA, raise your hand...

thats settled now...

that questions is in the IDEA of WHO WANTS TONS of security that dont work, and is USED against the USER...
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  Re: TOLD ya' sooo. MS backdoor and the police.
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2008, 10:40:34 PM » by KD Martin
How did you get SP3 so early?  The RTM was just a few days ago.  Inquiring minds want to know.

And yes, most of it is a roll-up of all the previous patches.  There are only a few new 'features' that I know of.

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  Re: TOLD ya' sooo. MS backdoor and the police.
« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2008, 06:45:54 AM » by RDH
How did you get SP3 so early?  The RTM was just a few days ago.  Inquiring minds want to know.

My version is Release candidate 2, build 3311, not the RTM. I got it back in February. If some one wants it, I could probably find a link - a 300MB+ download. To get RC2 installed, I had to rollback an older SP3 beta to SP2, patch the registery, and then reinstall RC2. I would recommend waiting for RTM.

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