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  Re: 9/11
« Reply #30 on: April 20, 2006, 05:21:12 PM » by Zeppelin
CBN had film footage of barge after barge being loaded and footage of one of them in the North Atlantic. The coverage went on to say that Julianni signed the order to remove the debris to an overseas location despite protests from relatives. The news report did state that the initial loads did go to New Jersey.

The 767 which struck second hit at a higher speed but at a corner with the majority of the jet fuel from the right wing and fuselodge spraying out into the air. It not penetrate to the center columns.

In two of the videos I watched of the collapse of the towers there is a large piece of debris identified as a piece of the outer building skin. It was falling, close to the tower, at the same rate of speed as the pancaking of the structure.

The status of WTC 7 is in dispute.  Some witnesses and firefighters claim the building was not struck by large debris as was some of the other buildings closer to the tower were. WTC 7 was two (NY city blocks) from the towers. Those buildings did not collapse and fires were put out by nightfall. Larry Silverstein stated in two interviews WTC 7 was "lost" so we pulled it. In a PBS interview in 2002 he repeated he consented to allow the NYFD to pull the building. Interviews with firefighters working adjacent the building  back this up when they stated they got the call to pull back from the buildings. The original transcripts of the radio communications are sealed.

The reference to "Thermite" I can't back up. It appears to be conjecture and speculation based on observing molten metal buried deep in the rubble pile. A normal fire using combustables found in the towers would produce insufficient heat to melt steel and stay red hot for weeks.  The molten steel was observed by the demolition crews supervising the removal of debris. In interviews they *speculated* only a Thermite Cutter Charge could produce the lasting heat and melting patterns. I could not find any credible quotes from experts who observed first hand the still red hot metal. However there is no lack of film footage of the red hot metal being loaded into dump trucks.

Trolling the net for reference to 9/11 brings up a dizzying amount of results. It's pure information overload, much of it pure BS. Finding credible experts is difficult. One quote I especially enjoyed was from the owner of Controlled Demolition. "We could not have brought the WTC down better ourselves".

What fuels conspiracy theorists is the withholding of information that could explain some of the disputed facts.
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  Re: 9/11
« Reply #31 on: April 21, 2006, 08:57:07 AM » by James Hill
Kooks,

You forgot the part about the Girl Scouts.

Idiots...

James Hill
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  Re: 9/11
« Reply #32 on: May 02, 2006, 06:34:41 AM » by david
Great post Catherine. 

It was sad that already in the short time that this forum has been up that we got treated to a nice post about how the "Zionists" did it because as we all know the Jews are secretly behind everything.  Thanks for that David.


Do you know why the Freedom Tower has taken almost five years for ground breaking to start on the WTC site where the debris was removed years ago? What was the stall? Dude, the devil had to be removed from Freedom. That is why.

Larry Silverstein purchased the WTC six weeks before 9/11 from the the Port Authority of New York. He bought terrorism insurance with it.

Larry Silverstein IS A ZIONIST. He is on record for saying "pull it", a term used by demolition companies to go ahead and implode a building, to pull down WTC building #7. That building was not hit by a plane. Adjacent to that building is a telephone switching station that did not collapse!

The long and exhausted talks over the new WTC construction was tied up on only one un-negotiable clause: that Larry Silverstein have absolutely nothing to do with the Freedom Tower. THINK! Why would the powers-that-be NOT want Silverstein to build the Freedom Tower?

From the NYTimes:

"The deal calls for Mr. Silverstein to surrender control of the $2 billion Freedom Tower, along with more than one third of the ground zero site, to the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. But he would retain the right to build three office towers on the most valuable parcels there."

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/26/nyregion/26rebuild.html?fta=y

and:

"The devil, as always, is in the details, but the Port Authority affirmed yesterday that it, too, was ready to sign the agreement, in which Mr. Silverstein cedes control over a third of the site but retains the right to build on three of the most valuable parcels."

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/04/27/opinion/27thu3.html

Governor Pataki and Mayor Bloomberg know the truth that Larry Silverstein was complicit in bringing down the Twin Towers on 9/11 BUT they cannot say it directly. I say it directly. They say it indirectly. You have to read between the lines. Anyone accusing or even questioning that Larry Silverstein had anything to do with the demolition of the Towers would, in turn, be accused of "anti-semitism".

But I don't just call a spade a spade. I call a spade a fucking spade.
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« Reply #33 on: May 02, 2006, 07:02:48 AM » by Mr. Fusion


Larry Silverstein purchased the WTC six weeks before 9/11 from the the Port Authority of New York. He bought terrorism insurance with it.

Silverstien LEASED the WTC, not bought.
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Larry Silverstein IS A ZIONIST. He is on record for saying "pull it", a term used by demolition companies to go ahead and implode a building, to pull down WTC building #7. That building was not hit by a plane. Adjacent to that building is a telephone switching station that did not collapse!

Fire Departments use the term Pull It to mean pull all personnel from the building as it is about to collapse. This action stops real attempts to save a building as it concedes the building is doomed.

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Governor Pataki and Mayor Bloomberg know the truth that Larry Silverstein was complicit in bringing down the Twin Towers on 9/11 BUT they cannot say it directly. I say it directly. They say it indirectly. You have to read between the lines. Anyone accusing or even questioning that Larry Silverstein had anything to do with the demolition of the Towers would, in turn, be accused of "anti-semitism".

But I don't just call a spade a spade. I call a spade a fucking spade.

and sometimes it is just a shovel.
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  Re: 9/11
« Reply #34 on: June 29, 2006, 02:15:37 PM » by RBG
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