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  How to get news to teens, how to walk in high heels and sexy podcast vs cable
« on: October 10, 2009, 06:28:42 AM » by duddits-fairuse
First  and foremost there is no p0rn content here! This is comedy in this culture (west of the big pond) & may be not in others.

This is also a test. Just how bad browser flash player can be. My old G4 800MHz does not do H264 very well for the obvious reasons, so youtube video is always "Gumby cartoon like". Drop.io went that route also - can't win.

1st is a drop.io flash play with source video download.

2nd is the original youtube link.

FOX News Teen News with Patti Ann Brown

Red Eye on youtube source for above

 How to walk in high heels See Howcast (fun place)

  See penelopespantyhose for a Dvorak 5min tech news replacement  or WTF over laugh
EDIT: Oops Weekbite should have been the link. (but it is a PPH property.) 
Who wins news with boobs or boobs doing news. Leg Show does sell news but what do I know.

No poll cause nobody cares to vote. I would like to know if drop.io vs youtube flash opinions. Optional: big MOV file look ok to you?.


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  Re: How to get news to teens, how to walk in high heels and sexy podcast vs cable
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2009, 10:36:44 AM » by ECA
both look the same to me, but Youtube seems abit muted.
The firstone had me OK' 2 scripts 1 from amazon, youtube I only OK' YOUTUBE.
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  Re: How to get news to teens, how to walk in high heels and sexy podcast vs cable
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2009, 12:48:21 PM » by hhopper


Drop.io had a much faster server than YouTube.

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  Re: How to get news to teens, how to walk in high heels and sexy podcast vs cable
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2009, 12:51:10 PM » by ECA


Drop.io had a much faster server than YouTube.



they arent handling 1 million hits per minute.. 
I just want them to load faster then the vid plays..
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  Re: How to get news to teens, how to walk in high heels and sexy podcast vs cabl
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2009, 04:54:37 PM » by duddits-fairuse
I thank you sirs, ECA and hhopper.

What is wrong with this picture?
Huh?   

The base problem is the browser plugin model; Safari is memory bound holding all Flash events in memory it controls for security reasons. Compounded by misuse of video codec.

The fundamental problem is Flash using codec that is compute bound while enforcement of a security model that becomes memory bound. I have posted (in the past) Adobe's tech note on about the max number of flash events. My observation; if and/or when that count is exceeded a kill -9 "browser process" (no crashlog need for legal security death).

As I write the /var/vm is at 2GB and Safari VSize is 2.28GB of a VM of 5.99GB + 125MB with only 11.1MB of free Physical RAM. Hell one more Flash event is randomly fatal at this point -- Safari blink out of existence occurs. Firefox is not immune due to the same security model and codec rules. So, Adobe has compute bound H264, the browser sees only the FLV container while the user (me) gets stop action bad audio sync video and 79% of CPU used by browser.

There should be a law against this wacky situation. DON'T USE A CODEC DESIGNED FOR HARDWARE PROCESSING. Multi core 10ZHz General Purpose CPU processing by emulation is not fair and stupid use of the CPU and secondary storage I/O Bus time. And my money for a new machine because said CODEC PROCESSING HARDWARE is absent.

Sorry if I am wrong.

-fairuse {F u adobe and the H264 committee}
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  Re: How to get news to teens, how to walk in high heels and sexy podcast vs cable
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2009, 05:18:28 PM » by ECA
yep,
FF keeps everything in RAM, until you shut it off.
its really weierd that it CANT shut something off AFTER you close a window or the VIDEO IS OVER.
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  Re: How to get news to teens, how to walk in high heels and sexy podcast vs cabl
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2009, 06:31:44 PM » by duddits-fairuse
yep,
FF keeps everything in RAM, until you shut it off.
its really weierd that it CANT shut something off AFTER you close a window or the VIDEO IS OVER.

Every now and then when browsing video I Right click a flash window for settings, click the help button which opens browser window w/ adobe manager; delete everything [all sites] leave save 3rd party store box check marked and store similar SWF box UNCHECKED (one reason security model is wacky is this hackable entry point). It does speed up hulu and Fancast some.

Ref:
Quote from: Adobe
(Flash Player 9.0.115.0 and later) If you do not want to store Flash components on your computer, deselect Store Common Flash Components To Reduce Download Times.

Flash Player lets you store common or shared SWF and FLV files and other components from different websites on your computer to significantly reduce download times and allow faster viewing. For example, www.[hotel].com and [reservations.hotel].com might both use the same Adobe components on their sites.

Well duh, different versions of SWF & FLV cannot coexist -- bang browser dead.

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  Re: How to get news to teens, how to walk in high heels and sexy podcast vs cable
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2009, 10:39:44 PM » by ECA
aND IF THEY WOULD MAKE A dvd PLAYER for TV that would do FLV...Wonderful..
Be nice to have all the computer formats playable on DVD players on TV.
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  Re: How to get news to teens, how to walk in high heels and sexy podcast vs cabl
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2009, 12:49:26 AM » by duddits-fairuse
aND IF THEY WOULD MAKE A dvd PLAYER for TV that would do FLV...Wonderful..
Be nice to have all the computer formats playable on DVD players on TV.

Your off-the-shelf DVD player is really a content control device. It is NOT a consumer video player unless you consider divix a solution. I don't divix. DVD MPEG-2 .VOB is a good solution and I am not sure if FLV is better because I don't have the licensed software to make FLV files. I can make a DVD via Toast if I wish. A good solution is video out of iMac/iBook to HDTV HDMI (adapter/device required) or plain old video if TV has connector (15 pin d-shell). Everyone has a comment when "best solution" is a conflict with DRM because low quality is DRM's job.

Sigh! Drag Race on ESPN is over and I now get to see if Comcast's Hot New DVR recorded it. Scheduled at 2300 hours but football kicked it into a time slot 4 hours later.

On-Topic: Safari Vsize 3.12GB [top reports VM: 6.70GB + 125MB FreeRAM 9MB] Time to quit Browser and logoff/login. Flash/Browser is killing me now even when cycling thru 22 windows some with several tabs.

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  Re: How to get news to teens, how to walk in high heels and sexy podcast vs cable
« Reply #9 on: October 12, 2009, 08:37:56 AM » by ECA
Did you know that Windows media player WONT display a movie if there is a TV hook up??
You can see the desktop, but the movie wont view.

Also that FLV is a free format.  Otherwise 99% of the sites on the net would have to pay for its use.

http://usb.brando.com/sata-hdd-multi-media-player-adapter_p00958c046d015.html
have you seen this interesting device??
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Hemorrhoids Unite, the first arsehole to raise his hand is president.

  Re: How to get news to teens, how to walk in high heels and sexy podcast vs cabl
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2009, 03:18:52 PM » by duddits-fairuse
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Did you know that Windows media player WONT display a movie if there is a TV hook up??
You can see the desktop, but the movie wont view.
Did not know that.
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Also that FLV is a free format.  Otherwise 99% of the sites on the net would have to pay for its use.
OK, here is where it gets murky. FLV container can have; TrueMotion VP61,  FLV12, Sorenson H.2632, H.264/mp33

 Test
1. GoodnightBurbank.FLV: VLC & MPEGsc  (w/ Perian) says VP6F
2. My G1 cam broadcast download: VLC says: FLV1, MPEGsc (w/ Perian) sys, Sorenson H.263
3. YouTube, Yahoo
..others H.264 and mp4 video.

So ..  long as no quality is lost or codec is a resource drain & requires no $ per unit I am happy. The killer is FLV getting H.264/MP3 for playback. Not easy on CPU. I know as soon as YouTube Video plays it is H.264, cannot keep audio/video sync while streaming FL1 is good stuff if it is not compressed to hell. What I think happens is player is playing FLV but the transcode process puts in H.264 metadata that cannot play well.  2 cents.

http://usb.brando.com/sata-hdd-multi-media-player-adapter_p00958c046d015.html
have you seen this interesting device??

That is cool have to look close .
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