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  Did you know there we're forign troops at the WTC on 9/11? WTF!?!
« on: February 14, 2011, 11:46:42 PM » by Breetai


Okay what's with the Foreign solider on American Soil @ 4:40on 9/11 at the WTC telling news crews “building’s going to collapse… nothing informations…“? Then he pushes the camera down.  Anyone seen this before?

There's no way to tell for sure where he was or authenticate it as far as I know, I didn't see any insignia''s or patches on his fatigues or see any street signs or landmarks for a location.



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  Re: Did you know there we're forign troops at the WTC on 9/11? WTF!?!
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2011, 07:03:57 AM » by Obtuser
 If you stop the video at minute:seconds 4:47,& 4:48 you can see a shoulder patch on that soldier's fatigues. Would it possibly be that some unit(s) of the National Guard were called out and on duty by that time of the incident(s)?
I think it is unfortunate the the word DEMOLITION was used. It is not in proper context for this incident.
As a metallurgical technician in steel mills for over 27 years, I know that if you have fuel, with Oxygen [air] blowing on it, then steel will get hot enough to burn, and concrete will also crumble as the water molecules are driven out of their bonding with the cement molecules. Both buildings were in essence huge blast furnaces! When structural steel gets to 2100 Degrees F [bright Yellow hot] that is hot rolling temperature and it has only approx. 17% of its normal strength at room temperatures! It is just simple everyday Physics and Chemistry that occurred once the burning jet fuel was fanned by air rushing up the elevator shafts. Nothing more was needed, no explosives, NOTHING! That does not preclude that there were office supplies, cleaning supplies, etc. which would contribute to the fuel, too!
If you do not believe me, take an Oxy/Actelyene or Natural Gas cutting torch and when the proper flame adjustment is made, touch those little Blue cones at their focus point onto some concrete. But wear gloves, goggles, and long sleeves, pant legs, etc., because as the H2O molecules are driven out of the cement that concrete will spawl and spit in your face! Likewise on some structural steel , as it turns from cherry Red to bright Yellow it will begin to burn especially when you press the level to add the stream of Oxygen onto the hot spot. Watch the sparklers fly and through the dark green or Cobalt Blue goggle lenses you can see the metal melt and run like liquid gold ahead of the Oxygen stream. If you have the experience of some of us old guys, you can read the Carbon content of the steel by the amount and violence of the sparkler bursts. Some of us old timers could sort mixed grades of steel using the spark testing method. There is even an ASTM Method for this! To us guys, the building collapses are NOT a mystery, PERIOD!
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What are you worrying for? You are not getting out of this life alive, dead don't hurt, getting there might, and in some cases, damn well should!
 Plus during and after the next Ice Age, all of this infrastructure around us won't matter squat!

  Re: Did you know there we're forign troops at the WTC on 9/11? WTF!?!
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2011, 01:48:26 PM » by Breetai
Obviously your referring to Towers 1 & 2 If you watch the footage of Towers 1 & 2 the falling debris on the outside of the building also clearly falls much faster than the rest of the building giving it the look of a banana being peeled back.  So they obviously didn't fall at free fall speed, just a little observational common sense no one seems to mention.   The Video you obviously ignored however was focused on Building 7.   There's a reason for that, what happened in building 7 is fundamentally different than the two main towers it wasn't hit by a plane.   Building 7 fell bottom first smoothly and evenly across the full length and width of the building, that requires all support columns to be removed at the same time.  Fires don't knock out key structural members in a precise and timely fashion.  If fires were responsible for it's collapse building 7 would have buckled in the direction of the structural members that failed first fires can't knock out all the members simultaneously.

Building 7 was in fact a controlled Demolition now you can keep lying to yourself about it and tell yourself that 2 & 2 is 5 because big brother says so.  Try and pry open your mind to do some critical thinking on your own.

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  Re: Did you know there we're forign troops at the WTC on 9/11? WTF!?!
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2011, 09:20:28 PM » by Obtuser
 I will have to take a look at the footage of bldg #7. I was not aware of it as an also downed bldg.
 I was on the road at the time, and made 6 deliveries in Virginia from Alexandria, to Richmond and out to Virginia Beach over night for 3 more drops the next day.
It was more than just an interesting day, especially for  a Canadian! I saw the TV coverage at late Suppertime in the truck stop. When the Arabic owner's relatives came in to staff the night shift, everyone boycotted the store/fuel bar! Next morning all the many military bases were in lock down, so lots of "Uniiforms" showed up at breakfast in the truck stop. They were living off base, but normally eating at the Messes on base! It was an interesting discussion time, as many truckers are were former military! Some were expecting to get called up before they could get their trucks home!
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What are you worrying for? You are not getting out of this life alive, dead don't hurt, getting there might, and in some cases, damn well should!
 Plus during and after the next Ice Age, all of this infrastructure around us won't matter squat!

  Re: Did you know there we're forign troops at the WTC on 9/11? WTF!?!
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2011, 01:40:05 AM » by Breetai


I will have to take a look at the footage of bldg #7. I was not aware of it as an also downed bldg.

I was unaware of it too until about 2 years ago.  Here's a 6 second video of the collapse without the dramatic music a lot of other vids put in it.  I'm not gonna narrate it for you just check out the video and be honest with yourself. 



Once you get done chewing on that this one this is Eric Lawyer from fire fighters for 911 truth explaining that Firefighters are typically the agency that investigates building collapses.  He pulls out his fire Investigation 101 manual and points out point by point how the government broke the basic rules of an investigation of a building collapse on almost every level.



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  Re: Did you know there we're forign troops at the WTC on 9/11? WTF!?!
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2011, 08:04:50 AM » by Obtuser
 In Canada it is the Fire Marshall's Office that investigate. some of them are of course Senior experienced firefighters, but they also include structural, civil, and or electrical engineers, too!
 I heard a report in the radio news just in this current week that Bldg # 7 in just now reduced to ground level in the demolition clean up work. It was described as having been damaged in the 9/11 episode. I had assumed it to have been hit by some of the debris from the other bldgs / aircraft collisions, aka collateral damage! I have to run out of town now today. "Too many medical appmnts lately!"
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What are you worrying for? You are not getting out of this life alive, dead don't hurt, getting there might, and in some cases, damn well should!
 Plus during and after the next Ice Age, all of this infrastructure around us won't matter squat!

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