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  Re: On A Scale From 1 To 10 This Ranks An Eleven
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2011, 04:34:53 PM » by Ken in Berkeley
To elaborate on different people's point of views, suppose you sit down at a roulette table in a Las Vegas casino and bet $100 on the number 10.  The wheel is spun and the number 11 comes up once and you lose your bet.  You bet a 2nd time on 10 and the number 11 comes up again.  You bet a 3rd time on 10 and the number 11 comes up yet a 3rd time.  Then you walk away and different numbers come up.

A numbers person might say it was just a fluke, happens all the time.  Any number could have come up 3 times in a row.  It just happened to be an 11 that time.

A conspiracy person might say the wheel is rigged and the casino is trying to rip people off.

A spiritual numerologist might say the player was not in tune with the vibrations of the universe on those particular spins.

And Adam Curry might say that aliens have assumed command of the casino and were intentionally making the number 11 come up again and again.  Sorry Adam, I kid you buddy.  :)
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  Re: On A Scale From 1 To 10 This Ranks An Eleven
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2011, 11:26:48 AM » by bobbo
"The intent of the post was just to show that there are a heck of a lot of elevens out there associated with many big news events that have occurred over the decades."  ///  And yet your post doesn't show that at all.
What "rule" do you use for finding 11 when you do your word count and date evaluations?  the rule certainly looks like:  pick and choose to find an 11 if at all possible, don't restrict yourself in any way.

The Apollo Missions were numbered in order. 1-2-3 etc.  Why is landing on the moon more significant than the first launch or whatever happened on the other launches?  Why is the largest tsunami in Japan more significant than the 1000's of earthquakes that take place every day? 

You are smart enough to joke a bit about the numerology basis of these PURE COINCIDENCES ((unless manipulated by the Apollo 11 naming if true--only demonstrating Obtuser's point, but not yet comfortable enough to dismiss in completely.  Ha, ha.  You are looking at a fork in the road.  Are you a Man of Science, or Devo?   "Expectation Bias" is all you have going here.  Wallow in it for a while, then take a shower and feel sorry for those who stay mired so.
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  Re: On A Scale From 1 To 10 This Ranks An Eleven
« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2011, 07:22:57 PM » by ECA

tHE PROBLEM WIth this simulation comes at a Flaw.

When you add and multiply, you are adding into your supposition OTHER NUMBERS..so that when you concern yourself and look at the OTHER numbers, you must also ADD to those suppositions, the number 11..

by the time you are done equating ALL the numbers and give them a percentage of comparison, you end up with a pwecentage over 200% to 1000% with all the over lap.

Let me say it this way.
IF I could add/multiply the number 1, by anything and in anyform, I could make any number I wished.  I could even get a percentage of 100%  So, what to do with the OTHER NUMBERS?  I just want to see the OTHER numbers in comparison.
how about 2? compared to 12, 22, 32,...  or all the 2,4,6,8,...  And even in thiede year of 2000, 2002, 2022, ....1902,1922, 1944, ???
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  Re: On A Scale From 1 To 10 This Ranks An Eleven
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2011, 06:30:32 AM » by bobbo
eca--This must be an excellent subject for your because I don't understand a thing you just posted---and that goes perfectly with thinking there is anything to it, or to any variation there of, although on a second breath, you do appear to be dismissing it.

I am a bit curious as to how many two digit number combinations there are once you start taking multiples into account.  I can't think of any formula but it would be easy to start with 10 and start going.

10-20-30-etc
11-22-33-etc
12-24-36-48-60====60? OK I gotta stop right there, seems like 60 is the most mystical number because it is a multiple of 10 AND of 12.  Thats gotta be one powerful number.--72-84-96
13-26-39-52-65-78-91
14-28-42-56-70 double 10, 84 double 12 - 98
15-30 multi 10-45-60multi10, 75-90 multi 10
16-32-48multi12, 64-80 multi 10- 96 multi 12
17-34-51-68-85
18-36multi-54-72multi,90 multi===multiples starting to appear quite regularly now
19-38-57-76multi-95
20-na
21-42multi-63-84multi
22na
23-46-69-92
24na
25-50multi-75multi
26na
27-54multi-81
28na
29-58-87
30na
31-62-93
32na
33na
34na
35-70multi
36na
37-74multi-
38na
39na
40na
41-82
42na
43-86
44na
45na
46na
47-94
48na
49-98mullti
50na
51
52na
53
54na
55na
56na
57na
58
59
60na
61
62
63na

OK, it was fun waiting for a pattern to form, but its not quite there yet.  Kinda like trying to spot prime numbers?  There are more than I thought.
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  Re: On A Scale From 1 To 10 This Ranks An Eleven
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2011, 10:19:32 AM » by ECA

SIMPLE way to say it..

When you say a number is SPECIAL...
deal only with that number..and NOT with Adding and Multiplication..
Once you start with other numbers WITH your special number, you have to give THOSE numbers credit also.

If we did this with EVERY number from 0-9, and all the add/multi you could do..we would have 1000% of special numbers..

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  Re: On A Scale From 1 To 10 This Ranks An Eleven
« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2011, 05:15:24 PM » by bobbo
ECA--Ken's point is just the opposite==all the other numbers are not special.  11 is.  He says it with some examples but no rules, forumla, or argument.  You do the same.  Not very satisfying.
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  Re: On A Scale From 1 To 10 This Ranks An Eleven
« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2011, 04:32:24 PM » by Ken in Berkeley
Sorry Bobbo, I was on vacation last week, but this one I just can't resist:

Osama Bin Laden was killed on the 121st (11 x 11) day of 2011, aka May 1st, 2011.
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  Re: On A Scale From 1 To 10 This Ranks An Eleven
« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2011, 05:57:18 PM » by Obtuser
Ken, what you are saying is that Obama got eleeven with Osama! [groaner]
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  Re: On A Scale From 1 To 10 This Ranks An Eleven
« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2011, 08:17:10 PM » by Ken in Berkeley
Ken, what you are saying is that Obama got eleeven with Osama! [groaner]

That's quite a stretch, Obtuse.  ;)

Anybody think something is going to happen on 11/11/11?  It's coming up later in the year.  There is actually a movie being made about it from the director of a couple of the Saws movies.  I think he is taking more of a spiritual angle, however.

http://11-11-11themovie.com/
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  Re: On A Scale From 1 To 10 This Ranks An Eleven
« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2011, 01:37:32 AM » by bobbo
Ken---oooh, that sends shivers up my back.

But why isn't May 1, 2011 the mystical Number 10?  You know May is the fifth month: 05 + 1 +2 + 11==19.  Oops, I got that wrong.  Ok.  05 + 1 + 20 +11 = 37.  Ooops.  Oh, ok I see it now:  5 + 1 + 2 +1 +1 = 10.  Yep, 10 is the mystical number as god used it for our fingers and toes.  Heathens like you should read the bible more often.  How did you even get 11 out of that?  I won't even go look for fear of my everlasting soul.
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  Re: On A Scale From 1 To 10 This Ranks An Eleven
« Reply #25 on: May 03, 2011, 05:24:31 AM » by Ken in Berkeley
I guess we all see what we want to see, bobbo.  But America was attacked on 9/11, not 9/10.  Apollo 11 landed on the moon not Apollo 10.  JFK was assassinated on 11/22 not 10/20.. Japan's biggest quake happened on3/11 not 3/10. Flight 11hit the wtc first,  etc.
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  Re: On A Scale From 1 To 10 This Ranks An Eleven
« Reply #26 on: May 03, 2011, 07:50:57 AM » by bobbo
Ken--Initially, I thought you were "just having fun" with the coincidence.  Now, you seem to be giving this some credence?  You still haven't stated what ANY of your rules are.  What makes a date/occurence/number set significant enough to make its correspondence note worthy?  As stated:  there are 100's if not 1000 of earthquakes EVERY DAY.

My "gut hunch" is that "in effect" the numbers correspondence is completely controlled by their statistical occurence.  go back to calculating how many two digit combo's there are==might be around 50 for arguments sake?  And that would mean 11 would be found in 2% of significant events JUST LIKE any other two number combo's.

You have one theory, I have another.  How can we "test" for which is more accurate?  As an aside, given your "no rules" approach to seeing 11 by any way possible, I assume that 11 does apper more than 2% of the time, maybe even more like 5-6 or even 10-12 %?  Would that be so disproportionate as to confirm your theory?

EDIT--I was just musing about "what recent events" could be number analysed and I remember that we just had more tornadoes hit the USA in one 24 hour period than ever before in History.  I thought:  was this reflected by the number 11?  And applying the rule of any thing that works, it does:

"NOAA: Record 312 tornadoes in 24 hours last week - Nation - Modbee.com
May 2, 2011 ... Preliminary government estimates say there were more tornadoes in a single day last week than any other day in U.S. history."  /// May is the 5th month, so we have 5 + 2 + 2 + 1 + 1 = 11.

So May 1 is an Eleven Day because of Bin Laden, and May 2 is an Eleven Day because of Tornados.  Will May 3 also be momentous?  Choose any event you want and we have May as the 5th month.  5 X 3 = 15.  15 - 2 -1 -1 = ll.   How about May 4th?  Why that is 5 + 4 + 2 + 11 = 22 or a multiple of 11.  Wow.  and so forth.  BTW, you have multiplied numbers and added numbers.  Is subtracting and dividing numbers allowed as well?  How many operations of each are allowed?  If unlimited, any combo can be made to make any correspondence.  Numbers are like that.  A good exercise for the imagination.

How can we test this?

« Last Edit: May 03, 2011, 08:12:07 AM by bobbo »
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  Re: On A Scale From 1 To 10 This Ranks An Eleven
« Reply #27 on: May 03, 2011, 02:30:08 PM » by Obtuser
 Here is another coincidence to add to your list:
Osama bin Laden was killed almost exactly 66 years after Hitler committed suicide. Both events were reported on May 01. Both events are considered to be major dates that will be remembered amongst the many other calendar notations.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/galleries/the_days_the_earth_stood_still/the_days_the_earth_stood_still.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2011/05/01/2011-05-01_osama_bin_laden_adolf_hitler_both_declared_dead_on_may_1.html


« Last Edit: May 03, 2011, 02:37:47 PM by Obtuser »
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  Re: On A Scale From 1 To 10 This Ranks An Eleven
« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2011, 04:15:28 PM » by Ken in Berkeley
Here is another coincidence to add to your list:
Osama bin Laden was killed almost exactly 66 years after Hitler committed suicide. Both events were reported on May 01. Both events are considered to be major dates that will be remembered amongst the many other calendar notations.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/galleries/the_days_the_earth_stood_still/the_days_the_earth_stood_still.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2011/05/01/2011-05-01_osama_bin_laden_adolf_hitler_both_declared_dead_on_may_1.html



An interesting find, Obtuser.  Of course 66 is a multiple of 11 and May 1st (be it 1945 or 2011) is the 121st day of the year (11 x 11 = 121) and ADOLF (20) + HITLER (36) = 56, 5+6 = 11
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  Re: On A Scale From 1 To 10 This Ranks An Eleven
« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2011, 04:30:48 PM » by Ken in Berkeley
I need to make a fresh list when I have more free time but here is another interesting number ending in an 11 multiple.  Tim Russert, the longest serving moderator of Meet the Press was born on May 7th, 1950 and died on June 13th, 2008, which is a span of 21,222 days.  Had he lived another 1,000 days it would have been more interesting still.
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